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Quad-Core Samsung Chromebook Coming In May?

samsung chromebook series 3

“The ARM One”

Samsung’s Series 3 Chromebook – aka ‘The ARM One’ – is rumoured to be getting a refresh later this spring.

In recent commits to Chromium code there are references made to a new development board code-named ‘dasiy_spring‘. Sounds innocuous enough, right? Could just be an entirely new Chromebook, right?

Well…

‘Daisy’ was the development codename for the ‘board’ used inside the Samsung Chromebook. It’s unlikely Google would reuse code-names – not when they’re having such fun coming up with new ones! Further more, the ‘_spring’ suffix implies an iteration/update to an existing device rather than an entirely new one.

The Samsung Chromebook remains the best-selling of all Chromebook devices released thus far, and remains the best selling laptop on Amazon. Building on this success would be a good move.

And there is already precedent for iterative upgrades. Acer recently revised the specs of their low-end Chromebook, doubling its RAM and battery life in the process.

But whereas the Acer C7 was in need of that, the Samsung Chromebook is already a good performer with a pretty fantastic battery life. So what ‘upgrades’ would a Chromebook get?

Well, the Exynos Dual SoC it only comes in one stock configuration – and the Chromebook is using it. It could, instead, be based on the sucessor to the Dual – the quad core ‘Exynos Octa’.

But that’s speculation on my part. For now we know very little about Daisy_spring and probably won’t do until nearer to Google I/O in May.

  • w1ngnut

    I had the opportunity to play with Samsung’s Chromebook this weekend. It’s a very sleek device, not to mention the os (browser): pretty light, fast and stable. For most of the users out there and with its $250 price tag, it’s certainly a must-have!

    Would like to see improvements on the OS though: for instance, running Android (Linux?) apps too. I would consider seriously one (as a 2nd – or 3rd – device) if it ran Skype natively (I know other options exist).

    • http://profiles.google.com/kenny.strawn Kenny Strawn

      Technically if you get that developer switch (or keystroke) flipped, you’ll find that Chrome OS, at the core, is in fact MORE Linux-like (there’s even a full X server under the hood) than Android is… not to mention that if you’ve ever followed the Chrome(ium) OS Developer Guide and built CrOS from source, you’ll run into Portage (indicating a Gentoo base) as well (although in the earliest builds, it was APT; it was 0.5 that first used Portage for the build).

      And of course, in developer mode, yes, you can run Linux apps in some cases… see https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton for one example (and of course, Chrome OS’s very own ‘dev_install’ script is another).

      • w1ngnut

        Wow, this is very good news then!! Hope they bring more desktop-based apps in the future. Thanks for the information!!

        • http://profiles.google.com/kenny.strawn Kenny Strawn

          Either that, or — since most people don’t use developer mode — packaged apps becoming more common than hosted ones.

          A packaged app, in its most basic sense, is the best of both the extension and app worlds — a Chrome Web Store item with the ease of use of an app but at the same time is as tightly intergrated into the Chrome browser as an extension (see http://developer.chrome.com/dev/apps/about_apps.html ). Apps like this need to be MUCH more common than those “glorified bookmark” hosted apps…

  • Jonathan Guernon

    A good upgrade would be to change screen resolution and quality, also adding a touch-screen would be a plus.

    • Sebastiaan Franken

      No. No touchscreens please I hate getting fingers on my screen. Besides it’s not really a plus for Chrome OS in my opinion

      • http://twitter.com/redbullcat Phil Oakley

        I think that’ll change at I/O.

        • Sebastiaan Franken

          Still it’s a no for me. Why have a laptop if it has a touch screen?! That’s a tablets + Androids job IMO.

          • http://twitter.com/redbullcat Phil Oakley

            It’s rumored a Chrome tablet from Google will come at some point soon.

          • John T. Rollins

            I already have that. It’s called Nexus 7 + Chrome for Android. When Android becomes more viable on laptops, ChromeOS and Android will eventually merge. It’s inevitable. It doesn’t matter what Google are saying now — they’ll serve the market with what it wants eventually.

      • Jonathan Guernon

        I personally don’t care about the touch, but at least more resolution and a glossy screen.

      • Andrew Mezzi

        Why not just not use the touchscreen, then?

        • C. Darke

          I also hate touchscreens, not because of the touch, but because of the reflective glossy screens that is necessitated with the current technology. This was the biggest black mark against the Pixel for me.

      • John T. Rollins

        Touch-screens make a lot of sense for handhelds and hybrids. They make very little sense for a laptop. Why increase the cost of something for a feature no one will use?

  • Alexander Ramos

    Where I heard a new ARM is coming with Octa and 4GB RAM.

  • Jeremy Coleman

    I picked up the Samsung ARM Chromebook for my wife a couple weeks ago. BestBuy had an open box return for $216 and they gave me 30% off on top of that. I was prepared to pay $249, so it is definitely a winner at about $100 less!

    • ksat

      Did the same thing… Couldn’t be any happier! For $200, it is a solid piece of technology!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001950987546 Jeb Eldridge

    But, why???? It’s just a web browser!

    • http://twitter.com/redbullcat Phil Oakley

      If you believe that, you’ve never used Chrome OS, or at least don’t see how powerful the web is.

      • John T. Rollins

        The web isn’t powerful. The web is simply a universal API to access (some of) the power of the underlying platform.

        Standardisation is and always has been be a long and slow process. Until that changes, innovation will happen at the platform level. In fact, the W3C has a policy of only standardising *existing* technologies.

        Tech evangelism is fine, but clueless, pop-culture tech evangelism doesn’t do anyone any favours and just makes you look stupid.

        • http://profiles.google.com/ee2718 admin 1

          The web is a standard protocol (HTTP) not an API, and he is referring to the power of the back end servers when he refers to them as powerful, and it is powerful. For example I type in “power” on a Google search page, and it returns About 3,920,000,000 results in 0.16 seconds by searching in trillions of bytes of data. Now that is powerful – try storing all that searched data and carrying that search on your desktop PC.

    • jose Mendoza

      dude I have anywhere beteen 12-25 tabs open at any time when I use chrome. I have open documents, music (sometimes a bunch of youtube videos), work I record via google taks, always have three of my email tabs open, lastpass vault is always open if I need to look up a password, and at least 25 background processes happening at the same time. I am barely getting by on my acer C7 with 3 gigs of swap and 2 gigs of ram. I would love a system with a larger SSD(that is what stopped me from getting the samsung chromebook), a faster CPU, and a decent screen.

      • John T. Rollins

        ProTip, swap isn’t a substitute for DRAM — it’s too offload infrequently accessed memory pages or as a lest resort. No one should ever need 3GB swap for daily computing tasks.

  • Stefannie Tan

    I would also like better screen quality. The Pixel is a bit too much for my budget, unfortunately.

  • Sebastiaan Franken

    And I have just bought myself one of these… Dangit, more CPU power is never a bad thing

    • John T. Rollins

      Except when it is (i.e. paying more for it but not being able to use it).

      • Sebastiaan Franken

        Who says you can’t use it? The kernel can adress all 8 cores and the hypervisor can adress spaces for it so using it wouldn’t be a problem.

  • http://www.facebook.com/findplo Patrick Lopez

    I’ve been really wanting to get one of the series 3 Chromebooks lately but I’ve been worried that I’d get one and they get an update within a month or so. Thinking I’ll wait now JUST in case they do update. I imagine they’d run a lot better with a quad core and more RAM especially!

    • http://omgubuntu.co.uk/ Joey-Elijah Sneddon

      They don’t get updated too often, so we’re not quite in Apple-esque-paranoia-land quite yet.

      • http://www.facebook.com/findplo Patrick Lopez

        Thank god for that! *shudder*

    • John T Rollins

      Wait for Google I/O. If nothing appears, by the current model. Done. That’s my standard protocol when buying Google products. I’m pretty sure it’s Google’s standard protocol for releasing products too.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1658495863 Curtis Alan Mitchell

    If it had the same general form factor and features (battery life, lack of heat, lack of noise) I would happily pay an additional $200-$300 over the cost of the Series 3 for a better screen and more RAM (and maybe more storage). The ARM is an amazing entry level system but I definitely think there’ room for a mid-priced machine that has extra features

    • silenic

      Spot on!

    • Centrix

      Couldn’t agree more, it is a fantastic budget system!

    • John T. Rollins

      - It’d take a lot of extra features to dump the price that much. ARM vendors don’t need Intel margins! Near-disposable prices by first-world standards, and accessible prices for everywhere else is a good thing!

      – Who needs storage when we’ve got the CLOUD, bro?
      – ARM isn’t a “system”

      • John T. Rollins

        s/dump/bump/

  • Anonymous Viper 7

    more ram, bigger hard drive, and faster proccesor then i would by it and maybe install linux on it

    • Sebastiaan Franken

      More RAM yes, bigger SSD no (You can put everything in the cloud) and faster processor no (since the ARM one is fast enough really,the quad-core will be faster). And if you want to install linux why not buy a laptop without OS or with linux preinstalled? Besides Chrome OS is built on top of Gentoo.

  • http://profiles.google.com/kenny.strawn Kenny Strawn

    The Exynos Octa is 8-core, not quad-core… Which, an 8-core Chromebook for the price of an S5 550 would definitely be a good sell, don’t you think?

    Edit: Oh, and Super PLS (the display technology in the Nexus 10, also made by Samsung) would also help…

    • http://omgubuntu.co.uk/ Joey-Elijah Sneddon

      Technically it’s an 8 core yes, but it doesn’t use both sets of 4 cores at once; only one set is ever in use. So, PR wise yes it’s an 8 core chip, but realistically it’s a quad core chip; which quad core is in use depends on what you’re doing.

      • David Loring

        One thing that makes me skeptical of this is that I can’t see a use-case where the Big.LITTLE aspect of the Octa is actually useful in a laptop. It’s unlikely there are any light workloads that would be able to use the A-7 cores without performance degradation. Scrolling a page, maybe. And the “active sleep” task that phones spend so much time doing isn’t really a common laptop use case. Most of the time when you shut a laptop you really want it to go into hibernation, and do nothing until you need it again.

        All that said, they may do it just because they can, and they’re producing a crapton of those chips for the Galaxy S4 anyway, so why not slap a few in a laptop? I’d sure buy it for $250.

        • http://profiles.google.com/ee2718 admin 1

          There is a lot of time spent semi-idling of dealing with user input, polling inputs, waiting for interrupts etc. the little core would be used for that, and the big core would kick in only for peak demand. Hibernate and you can’t do those jobs, and to switch from hibernate to resume takes a fair amount of time, whereas switching from big to little and back doesn’t.

      • John T. Rollins

        Joey “pseudo-engineer-cum-hack” Sneddon.

  • http://twitter.com/ElectroCar Michael Lemus

    I think it works great as is except the screen needs to be better. A lot better! The screen is just too dim even at max brightness. Otherwise I love the screen size, looks, and the chiclet keyboard.

    • C. Darke

      I like the dim screen. In fact, I find many laptops do not manage to dim the screen enough. More vertical resolution would be nice.

  • MsTay

    It sucks! I so wish I had not let the salesman talk me out of buying the iPad….. How is something that cost 5-$600 having problems charging? With the charger that it came with! Also I am always getting kicked out of programs. It horrible I would not recommend this product to anyone! N the phone sucks to! Team iPad

    • Sebastiaan Franken

      Yeah – if you can’t understand the difference between a vendor locked-in tablet (which is overpriced) or a full fledged OS you shouldn’t give IT/PC advice to friends – just sayin’.
      Besides, how can you get kicked out of programs? It doesn’t have any since it’s all running on the web…

      Trolling..

  • John T. Rollins

    Surely “_spring” is because Google I/O and the suspected product launch is in (northern hemisphere) spring? Derp.

  • Jonathan Alfonso

    Or spring as in a next step? Remember, the new Exynos Octa is just now coming out in the S4, it’ll take a while to be in a laptop, but it’s bound to happen with Samsung :)

  • Matti Saarinen

    2,3GHz quadcore processor with 3gb RAM and 64GB storage – what a great computer!

  • Kenny Strawn

    Well, it’s been 6 months since this was posted, and it seems HP is the one who made this device. Oh, well…